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Syscoin Platform’s Great Reddit Scaling Bake-off Proposal

Syscoin Platform’s Great Reddit Scaling Bake-off Proposal

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We are excited to participate and present Syscoin Platform's ideal characteristics and capabilities towards a well-rounded Reddit Community Points solution!
Our scaling solution for Reddit Community Points involves 2-way peg interoperability with Ethereum. This will provide a scalable token layer built specifically for speed and high volumes of simple value transfers at a very low cost, while providing sovereign ownership and onchain finality.
Token transfers scale by taking advantage of a globally sorting mempool that provides for probabilistically secure assumptions of “as good as settled”. The opportunity here for token receivers is to have an app-layer interactivity on the speed/security tradeoff (99.9999% assurance within 10 seconds). We call this Z-DAG, and it achieves high-throughput across a mesh network topology presently composed of about 2,000 geographically dispersed full-nodes. Similar to Bitcoin, however, these nodes are incentivized to run full-nodes for the benefit of network security, through a bonded validator scheme. These nodes do not participate in the consensus of transactions or block validation any differently than other nodes and therefore do not degrade the security model of Bitcoin’s validate first then trust, across every node. Each token transfer settles on-chain. The protocol follows Bitcoin core policies so it has adequate code coverage and protocol hardening to be qualified as production quality software. It shares a significant portion of Bitcoin’s own hashpower through merged-mining.
This platform as a whole can serve token microtransactions, larger settlements, and store-of-value in an ideal fashion, providing probabilistic scalability whilst remaining decentralized according to Bitcoin design. It is accessible to ERC-20 via a permissionless and trust-minimized bridge that works in both directions. The bridge and token platform are currently available on the Syscoin mainnet. This has been gaining recent attention for use by loyalty point programs and stablecoins such as Binance USD.

Solutions

Syscoin Foundation identified a few paths for Reddit to leverage this infrastructure, each with trade-offs. The first provides the most cost-savings and scaling benefits at some sacrifice of token autonomy. The second offers more preservation of autonomy with a more narrow scope of cost savings than the first option, but savings even so. The third introduces more complexity than the previous two yet provides the most overall benefits. We consider the third as most viable as it enables Reddit to benefit even while retaining existing smart contract functionality. We will focus on the third option, and include the first two for good measure.
  1. Distribution, burns and user-to-user transfers of Reddit Points are entirely carried out on the Syscoin network. This full-on approach to utilizing the Syscoin network provides the most scalability and transaction cost benefits of these scenarios. The tradeoff here is distribution and subscription handling likely migrating away from smart contracts into the application layer.
  2. The Reddit Community Points ecosystem can continue to use existing smart contracts as they are used today on the Ethereum mainchain. Users migrate a portion of their tokens to Syscoin, the scaling network, to gain much lower fees, scalability, and a proven base layer, without sacrificing sovereign ownership. They would use Syscoin for user-to-user transfers. Tips redeemable in ten seconds or less, a high-throughput relay network, and onchain settlement at a block target of 60 seconds.
  3. Integration between Matic Network and Syscoin Platform - similar to Syscoin’s current integration with Ethereum - will provide Reddit Community Points with EVM scalability (including the Memberships ERC777 operator) on the Matic side, and performant simple value transfers, robust decentralized security, and sovereign store-of-value on the Syscoin side. It’s “the best of both worlds”. The trade-off is more complex interoperability.

Syscoin + Matic Integration

Matic and Blockchain Foundry Inc, the public company formed by the founders of Syscoin, recently entered a partnership for joint research and business development initiatives. This is ideal for all parties as Matic Network and Syscoin Platform provide complementary utility. Syscoin offers characteristics for sovereign ownership and security based on Bitcoin’s time-tested model, and shares a significant portion of Bitcoin’s own hashpower. Syscoin’s focus is on secure and scalable simple value transfers, trust-minimized interoperability, and opt-in regulatory compliance for tokenized assets rather than scalability for smart contract execution. On the other hand, Matic Network can provide scalable EVM for smart contract execution. Reddit Community Points can benefit from both.
Syscoin + Matic integration is actively being explored by both teams, as it is helpful to Reddit, Ethereum, and the industry as a whole.

Proving Performance & Cost Savings

Our POC focuses on 100,000 on-chain settlements of token transfers on the Syscoin Core blockchain. Transfers and burns perform equally with Syscoin. For POCs related to smart contracts (subscriptions, etc), refer to the Matic Network proposal.
On-chain settlement of 100k transactions was accomplished within roughly twelve minutes, well-exceeding Reddit’s expectation of five days. This was performed using six full-nodes operating on compute-optimized AWS c4.2xlarge instances which were geographically distributed (Virginia, London, Sao Paulo Brazil, Oregon, Singapore, Germany). A higher quantity of settlements could be reached within the same time-frame with more broadcasting nodes involved, or using hosts with more resources for faster execution of the process.
Addresses used: 100,014
The demonstration was executed using this tool. The results can be seen in the following blocks:
612722: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/6d47796d043bb4c508d29123e6ae81b051f5e0aaef849f253c8f3a6942a022ce
612723: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/8e2077f743461b90f80b4bef502f564933a8e04de97972901f3d65cfadcf1faf
612724: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/205436d25b1b499fce44c29567c5c807beaca915b83cc9f3c35b0d76dbb11f6e
612725: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/776d1b1a0f90f655a6bbdf559ff5072459cbdc5682d7615ff4b78c00babdc237
612726: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/de4df0994253742a1ac8ac9eec8d2a8c8b0a6d72c53d6f3caa29bb6c171b0a6b
612727: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/e5e167c52a9decb313fbaadf49a5e34cb490f8084f642a850385476d4ef10d70
612728: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/ab64d989edc71890e7b5b8491c20e9a27520dc45a5f7c776d3dae79057f59fe7
612729: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/5e8b7ecd0e36f99d07e4ea6e135fc952bf7ec30164ab6f4d1e98b0f2d405df6d
612730: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/block/d395df3d31dde60bbb0bece6bd5b358297da878f0beb96be389e5f0e043580a3
It is important to note that this POC is not focused on Z-DAG. The performance of Z-DAG has been benchmarked within realistic network conditions: Whiteblock’s audit is publicly available. Network latency tests showed an average TPS around 15k with burst capacity up to 61k. Zero-latency control group exhibited ~150k TPS. Mainnet testing of the Z-DAG network is achievable and will require further coordination and additional resources.
Even further optimizations are expected in the upcoming Syscoin Core release which will implement a UTXO model for our token layer bringing further efficiency as well as open the door to additional scaling technology currently under research by our team and academic partners. At present our token layer is account-based, similar to Ethereum. Opt-in compliance structures will also be introduced soon which will offer some positive performance characteristics as well. It makes the most sense to implement these optimizations before performing another benchmark for Z-DAG, especially on the mainnet considering the resources required to stress-test this network.

Cost Savings

Total cost for these 100k transactions: $0.63 USD
See the live fee comparison for savings estimation between transactions on Ethereum and Syscoin. Below is a snapshot at time of writing:
ETH price: $318.55 ETH gas price: 55.00 Gwei ($0.37)
Syscoin price: $0.11
Snapshot of live fee comparison chart
Z-DAG provides a more efficient fee-market. A typical Z-DAG transaction costs 0.0000582 SYS. Tokens can be safely redeemed/re-spent within seconds or allowed to settle on-chain beforehand. The costs should remain about this low for microtransactions.
Syscoin will achieve further reduction of fees and even greater scalability with offchain payment channels for assets, with Z-DAG as a resilience fallback. New payment channel technology is one of the topics under research by the Syscoin development team with our academic partners at TU Delft. In line with the calculation in the Lightning Networks white paper, payment channels using assets with Syscoin Core will bring theoretical capacity for each person on Earth (7.8 billion) to have five on-chain transactions per year, per person, without requiring anyone to enter a fee market (aka “wait for a block”). This exceeds the minimum LN expectation of two transactions per person, per year; one to exist on-chain and one to settle aggregated value.

Tools, Infrastructure & Documentation

Syscoin Bridge

Mainnet Demonstration of Syscoin Bridge with the Basic Attention Token ERC-20
A two-way blockchain interoperability system that uses Simple Payment Verification to enable:
  • Any Standard ERC-20 token to be moved from Ethereum to the Syscoin blockchain as a Syscoin Platform Token (SPT), and back to Ethereum
  • Any SPT to be moved from Syscoin to the Ethereum blockchain as an ERC-20 token, and back to Syscoin

Benefits

  • Permissionless
  • No counterparties involved
  • No trading mechanisms involved
  • No third-party liquidity providers required
  • Cross-chain Fractional Supply - 2-way peg - Token supply maintained globally
  • ERC-20s gain vastly improved transactionality with the Syscoin Token Platform, along with the security of bitcoin-core-compliant PoW.
  • SPTs gain access to all the tooling, applications and capabilities of Ethereum for ERC-20, including smart contracts.
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Source code

https://github.com/syscoin/?q=sysethereum
Main Subprojects

API

Tools to simplify using Syscoin Bridge as a service with dapps and wallets will be released some time after implementation of Syscoin Core 4.2. These will be based upon the same processes which are automated in the current live Sysethereum Dapp that is functioning with the Syscoin mainnet.

Documentation

Syscoin Bridge & How it Works (description and process flow)
Superblock Validation Battles
HOWTO: Provision the Bridge for your ERC-20
HOWTO: Setup an Agent
Developer & User Diligence

Trade-off

The Syscoin Ethereum Bridge is secured by Agent nodes participating in a decentralized and incentivized model that involves roles of Superblock challengers and submitters. This model is open to participation. The benefits here are trust-minimization, permissionless-ness, and potentially less legal/regulatory red-tape than interop mechanisms that involve liquidity providers and/or trading mechanisms.
The trade-off is that due to the decentralized nature there are cross-chain settlement times of one hour to cross from Ethereum to Syscoin, and three hours to cross from Syscoin to Ethereum. We are exploring ways to reduce this time while maintaining decentralization via zkp. Even so, an “instant bridge” experience could be provided by means of a third-party liquidity mechanism. That option exists but is not required for bridge functionality today. Typically bridges are used with batch value, not with high frequencies of smaller values, and generally it is advantageous to keep some value on both chains for maximum availability of utility. Even so, the cross-chain settlement time is good to mention here.

Cost

Ethereum -> Syscoin: Matic or Ethereum transaction fee for bridge contract interaction, negligible Syscoin transaction fee for minting tokens
Syscoin -> Ethereum: Negligible Syscoin transaction fee for burning tokens, 0.01% transaction fee paid to Bridge Agent in the form of the ERC-20, Matic or Ethereum transaction fee for contract interaction.

Z-DAG

Zero-Confirmation Directed Acyclic Graph is an instant settlement protocol that is used as a complementary system to proof-of-work (PoW) in the confirmation of Syscoin service transactions. In essence, a Z-DAG is simply a directed acyclic graph (DAG) where validating nodes verify the sequential ordering of transactions that are received in their memory pools. Z-DAG is used by the validating nodes across the network to ensure that there is absolute consensus on the ordering of transactions and no balances are overflowed (no double-spends).

Benefits

  • Unique fee-market that is more efficient for microtransaction redemption and settlement
  • Uses decentralized means to enable tokens with value transfer scalability that is comparable or exceeds that of credit card networks
  • Provides high throughput and secure fulfillment even if blocks are full
  • Probabilistic and interactive
  • 99.9999% security assurance within 10 seconds
  • Can serve payment channels as a resilience fallback that is faster and lower-cost than falling-back directly to a blockchain
  • Each Z-DAG transaction also settles onchain through Syscoin Core at 60-second block target using SHA-256 Proof of Work consensus
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Source code

https://github.com/syscoin/syscoin

API

Syscoin-js provides tooling for all Syscoin Core RPCs including interactivity with Z-DAG.

Documentation

Z-DAG White Paper
Useful read: An in-depth Z-DAG discussion between Syscoin Core developer Jag Sidhu and Brave Software Research Engineer Gonçalo Pestana

Trade-off

Z-DAG enables the ideal speed/security tradeoff to be determined per use-case in the application layer. It minimizes the sacrifice required to accept and redeem fast transfers/payments while providing more-than-ample security for microtransactions. This is supported on the premise that a Reddit user receiving points does need security yet generally doesn’t want nor need to wait for the same level of security as a nation-state settling an international trade debt. In any case, each Z-DAG transaction settles onchain at a block target of 60 seconds.

Syscoin Specs

Syscoin 3.0 White Paper
(4.0 white paper is pending. For improved scalability and less blockchain bloat, some features of v3 no longer exist in current v4: Specifically Marketplace Offers, Aliases, Escrow, Certificates, Pruning, Encrypted Messaging)
  • 16MB block bandwidth per minute assuming segwit witness carrying transactions, and transactions ~200 bytes on average
  • SHA256 merge mined with Bitcoin
  • UTXO asset layer, with base Syscoin layer sharing identical security policies as Bitcoin Core
  • Z-DAG on asset layer, bridge to Ethereum on asset layer
  • On-chain scaling with prospect of enabling enterprise grade reliable trustless payment processing with on/offchain hybrid solution
  • Focus only on Simple Value Transfers. MVP of blockchain consensus footprint is balances and ownership of them. Everything else can reduce data availability in exchange for scale (Ethereum 2.0 model). We leave that to other designs, we focus on transfers.
  • Future integrations of MAST/Taproot to get more complex value transfers without trading off trustlessness or decentralization.
  • Zero-knowledge Proofs are a cryptographic new frontier. We are dabbling here to generalize the concept of bridging and also verify the state of a chain efficiently. We also apply it in our Digital Identity projects at Blockchain Foundry (a publicly traded company which develops Syscoin softwares for clients). We are also looking to integrate privacy preserving payment channels for off-chain payments through zkSNARK hub & spoke design which does not suffer from the HTLC attack vectors evident on LN. Much of the issues plaguing Lightning Network can be resolved using a zkSNARK design whilst also providing the ability to do a multi-asset payment channel system. Currently we found a showstopper attack (American Call Option) on LN if we were to use multiple-assets. This would not exist in a system such as this.

Wallets

Web3 and mobile wallets are under active development by Blockchain Foundry Inc as WebAssembly applications and expected for release not long after mainnet deployment of Syscoin Core 4.2. Both of these will be multi-coin wallets that support Syscoin, SPTs, Ethereum, and ERC-20 tokens. The Web3 wallet will provide functionality similar to Metamask.
Syscoin Platform and tokens are already integrated with Blockbook. Custom hardware wallet support currently exists via ElectrumSys. First-class HW wallet integration through apps such as Ledger Live will exist after 4.2.
Current supported wallets
Syscoin Spark Desktop
Syscoin-Qt

Explorers

Mainnet: https://sys1.bcfn.ca (Blockbook)
Testnet: https://explorer-testnet.blockchainfoundry.co

Thank you for close consideration of our proposal. We look forward to feedback, and to working with the Reddit community to implement an ideal solution using Syscoin Platform!

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Ren | All-In-One

Ren

What is Ren? Ren is an open protocol that enables the permissionless transfer of value between any blockchain. Ren's core product, RenVM, brings interoperability to decentralized finance (DeFi).
What makes RenVM unique is that it does everything in secret using zero-knowledge proofs over an sMPC based protocol that the team has pioneered. The state, inputs, and outputs of all programs that RenVM runs are kept hidden from everyone, including the Darknodes that power it.
This allows RenVM to securely manage (ECDSA) private keys on different blockchains, making it possible to shift tokens between these blockchains in a trustless, permissionless, and decentralized way (i.e interoperability).
Technically speaking RenVM is a byzantine fault-tolerant protocol (with 1/3 malicious nodes) that does ECDSA threshold key generation and signing via sMPC. RenVM is not a product or an application in and of itself but is a network (and an accompanying SDK) that allows developers to bring interoperability to their DeFi applications.
Ren was founded in 2017 and is headquartered in Singapore.

RenVM Mainnet Is Live! 🎉

https://medium.com/renproject/renvm-mainnet-release-98cac4c6fa8e

RenBridge (dapp)| Mint BTC, BCH, and ZEC on Ethereum

https://bridge.renproject.io/

Official Resources
Darknodes
Darknodes are the physical machines that power RenVM, where every machine contributes CPU time for compute power and its disk space for storage. These are that machines that form the P2P decentralized network (not a blockchain) that cooperate to run secret multiparty computations. It is important to note that programs executing on RenVM are hidden from the Darknodes that run the virtual machine.
This guide will walk you through the installation of your Darknode. Before you begin, make sure that you have a MacOS, Windows, or Ubuntu machine available (i.e. home computer) and 100,000 REN.
Guides: How to set up a Darknode
The Team
Ren Linkedin Page
Investors
General Updates | Blog
2020 Development & Ecosystem Updates
Podcasts & Youtube videos | Chronological Order
REN Exchanges
REN Token Details
FAQ
What happened to the Republic Protocol?
Republic Protocol was rebranded to Ren to reflect the project’s evolution towards interoperability (i.e. RenVM). Old posts and discussions can be found on the Republic Protocol Reddit

Closing Thoughts

We truly appreciate our community, and this cannot be said enough. The level of technical understanding and subsequent assistance provided to our newcomers, speaks to the expertise and positivity in the community, and we couldn’t be more thankful.
We look forward to collaborating with everyone as we make our next steps forward towards building a cross-chain DeFi ecosystem. If you are interested in working directly with the Ren Team we are always looking for developers so please do reach out via the below email.
Need help or want to partner? [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])
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IRC Log from Ravencoin Open Developer Meeting - Aug 24, 2018

[14:05] <@wolfsokta> Hello Everybody, sorry we're a bit late getting started
[14:05] == block_338778 [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.72.214.222.226] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[14:06] <@wolfsokta> Here are the topics we would like to cover today • 2.0.4 Need to upgrade - What we have done to communicate to the community • Unique Assets • iOS Wallet • General Q&A
[14:06] == Chatturga changed the topic of #ravencoin-dev to: 2.0.4 Need to upgrade - What we have done to communicate to the community • Unique Assets • iOS Wallet • General Q&A
[14:06] <@wolfsokta> Daben, could you mention what we have done to communicate the need for the 2.0.4 upgrade?
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[14:07] <@wolfsokta> Others here are free to chime in where they saw the message first.
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[14:08] Whats up bois
[14:08] hi everyone
[14:08] hi hi
[14:08] <@wolfsokta> Discussing the 2.0.4 update and the need to upgrade.
[14:08] <@Chatturga> Sure. As most of you are aware, the community has been expressing concerns with the difficulty oscillations, and were asking that something be done to the difficulty retargeting. Many people submitted suggestions, and the devs decided to implement DGW.
[14:09] <@Tron> I wrote up a short description of why we're moving to a new difficulty adjustment. https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-dark-gravity-wave-1da0a71657f7
[14:09] <@Chatturga> I have made posts on discord, telegram, bitcointalk, reddit, and ravencointalk.org from testnet stages through current.
[14:10] <@Chatturga> If there are any other channels that can reach a large number of community members, I would love to have more.
[14:10] <@wolfsokta> Thanks Tron, that hasn't been shared to the community at large yet, but folks feel free to share it.
[14:10] When was this decision made and by whom and how?
[14:10] <@Chatturga> I have also communicated with the pool operators and exchanges about the update. Of all of the current pools, only 2 have not yet updated versions.
[14:11] <@wolfsokta> The decision was made by the developers through ongoing requests for weeks made by the community.
[14:12] <@wolfsokta> Evidence was provided by the community of the damages that could be caused to projects when the wild swings continue.
[14:12] So was there a meeting or vote? How can people get invited
[14:12] <@Tron> It was also informed by my conversations with some miners that recommended that we make the change before the coin died. They witnessed similar oscillations from which other coins never recovered.
[14:13] only two pools left to upgrade is good, what about the exchanges? Any word on how many of those have/have not upgraded?
[14:13] <@wolfsokta> We talked about here in our last meeting Bruce_. All attendees were asked if they had any questions or concerns.
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[14:13] == roshii [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.41.251.25.100] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[14:13] sup roshii long time no see
[14:14] <@Chatturga> Bittrex, Cryptopia, and IDCM have all either updated or have announced their intent to update.
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[14:15] sup russki
[14:15] what's the status here?
[14:15] I don’t think that was at all clear from the last dev meeting
[14:15] I can’t be the only person who didn’t understand it
[14:15] <@wolfsokta> Are there any suggestions on how to communicate the need to upgrade even further? I am concerned that others might also not understand.
[14:17] I’m not sold on the benefit and don’t understand the need for a hard fork — I think it’s a bad precedent to simply go rally exchanges to support a hard fork with little to no discussion
[14:17] so just to note, the exchanges not listed as being upgraded or have announced their intention to upgrade include: qbtc, upbit, and cryptobridge (all with over $40k usd volume past 24 hours according to coinmarketcap)
[14:18] <@wolfsokta> I don't agree that there was little or no discussion at all.
[14:19] <@wolfsokta> Looking back at our meeting notes from two weeks ago "fork" was specifically asked about by BrianMCT.
[14:19] If individual devs have the power to simple decide to do something as drastic as a hard fork and can get exchanges and miners to do it that’s got a lot of issues with centralization
[14:19] <@wolfsokta> It had been implemented on testnet by then and discussed in the community for several weeks before that.
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[14:19] howdy
[14:19] Everything I’ve seen has been related to the asset layer
[14:19] I have to agree with Bruce_, though I wasn't able to join the last meeting here. That said I support the fork
[14:20] Which devs made this decision to do a fork and how was it communicated?
[14:20] well mostly the community made the decision
[14:20] Consensus on a change is the heart of bitcoin development and I believe the devs have done a great job building that consensus
[14:20] a lot of miners were in uproar about the situation
[14:20] <@wolfsokta> All of the devs were supporting the changes. It wasn't done in isolation at all.
[14:21] This topic has been a huge discussion point within the RVN mining community for quite some time
[14:21] the community and miners have been having issues with the way diff is adjusted for quite some time now
[14:21] Sure I’m well aware of that -
[14:21] Not sold on the benefits of having difficulty crippled by rented hashpower?
[14:21] The community saw a problem. The devs got together and talked about a solution and implemented a solution
[14:21] I’m active in the community
[14:22] So well aware of the discussions on DGW etc
[14:22] Hard fork as a solution to a problem community had with rented hashpower (nicehash!!) sounds like the perfect decentralized scenario!
[14:23] hard forks are very dangerous
[14:23] mining parties in difficulty drops are too
[14:23] <@wolfsokta> Agreed, we want to keep them to an absolute minimum.
[14:23] But miners motivation it’s the main vote
[14:24] What would it take to convince you that constantly going from 4 Th/s to 500 Gh/s every week is worse for the long term health of the coin than the risk of a hard fork to fix it?
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[14:24] This hardfork does include the asset layer right? if so why is it being delayed in implementation?
[14:24] <@wolfsokta> Come back Tron!
[14:24] coudl it have been implement through bip9 voting?
[14:24] also hard fork is activated by the community! that's a vote thing!
[14:24] @mrsushi to give people time to upgrade their wallet
[14:25] @under, it would be much hard to keep consensus with a bip9 change
[14:25] <@wolfsokta> We investigated that closely Under.
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[14:25] <@wolfsokta> See Tron's post for more details about that.
[14:25] <@spyder_> Hi Tron
[14:25] <@wolfsokta> https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-dark-gravity-wave-1da0a71657f7
[14:25] Sorry about that. Computer went to sleep.
[14:26] I'm wrong
[14:26] 2 cents. the release deadline of october 31st puts a bit of strain on getting code shipped. (duh). but fixing daa was important to the current health of the coin, and was widely suppported by current mining majority commuity. could it have been implemented in a different manner? yes . if we didnt have deadlines
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[14:27] sushi this fork does not include assets. it's not being delayed though, we're making great progress for an Oct 31 target
[14:28] I don’t see the urgency but my vote doesn’t matter since my hash power is still CPUs
[14:28] <@wolfsokta> We're seeing the community get behind the change as well based on the amount of people jumping back in to mine through this last high difficulty phase.
[14:28] So that will be another hardfork?
[14:28] the fork does include the asset code though set to activate on oct 30th
[14:28] yes
[14:29] <@wolfsokta> Yes, it will based on the upgrade voting through the BIP9 process.
[14:29] I wanted to ask about burn rates from this group: and make a proposal.
[14:29] we're also trying hard to make it the last for awhile
[14:29] Can you clear up the above — there will be this one and another hard fork?
[14:29] <@wolfsokta> Okay, we could discuss that under towards the end of the meeting.
[14:30] If this one has the asset layer is there something different set for October
[14:30] <@wolfsokta> Yes, there will be another hard fork on October 31st once the voting process is successful.
[14:31] <@wolfsokta> The code is in 2.0.4 now and assets are active on testnet
[14:31] Bruce, the assets layer is still being worked on. Assets is active on mainnet. So in Oct 31 voting will start. and if it passes, the chain will fork.
[14:31] this one does NOT include assets for mainnet Bruce -- assets are targeted for Oct 31
[14:31] not***
[14:31] not active****
[14:31] correct me if I'm wrong here, but if everyone upgrades to 2.0.4 for this fork this week, the vote will automatically pass on oct 31st correct? nothing else needs to be done
[14:31] Will if need another download or does this software download cover both forks?
[14:31] <@wolfsokta> Correct Urgo
[14:32] thats how the testnet got activated and this one shows "asset activation status: waiting until 10/30/2018 20:00 (ET)"
[14:32] Will require another upgrade before Oct 31
[14:32] thank you for the clarification wolfsokta
[14:32] <@wolfsokta> It covers both forks, but we might have additional bug fixes in later releases.
[14:32] So users DL one version now and another one around October 30 which activates after that basically?
[14:33] I understand that, but I just wanted to make it clear that if people upgrade to this version for this fork and then don't do anything, they are also voting for the fork on oct 31st
[14:33] Oh okay — one DL?
[14:33] Bruce, Yes.
[14:33] Ty
[14:33] well there is the issue that there maybe some further consensus bugs dealing with the pruneability of asset transactions that needs to be corrected between 2.0.4 and mainnet. so i would imagine that there will be further revisions required to upgrade before now and october 31
[14:33] @under that is correct.
[14:34] I would highly recommend bumping the semver up to 3.0.0 for the final pre 31st release so that the public know to definitely upgrade
[14:34] @under +1
[14:35] out of curiosity, have there been many bugs found with the assets from the version released in july for testnet (2.0.3) until this version? or is it solely a change to DGW?
[14:35] <@wolfsokta> That's not a bad idea under.
[14:35] <@spyder_> @under good idea
[14:35] @urgo. Bugs are being found and fixed daily.
[14:35] Any time the protocol needs to change, there would need to be a hard fork (aka upgrade). It is our hope that we can activate feature forks through the BIP process (as we are doing for assets). Mining pools and exchanges will need to be on the newest software at the point of asset activation - should the mining hash power vote for assets.
[14:35] blondfrogs: gotcha
[14:35] There have been bugs found (and fixed). Testing continues. We appreciate all the bug reports you can give us.
[14:36] <@wolfsokta> Yes! Thank you all for your help in the community.
[14:37] (pull requests with fixes and test coverage would be even better!)
[14:37] asset creation collision is another major issue. current unfair advantage or nodes that fore connect to mining pools will have network topologies that guarantee acceptance. I had discussed the possibility of fee based asset creation selection and i feel that would be a more equal playing ground for all users
[14:38] *of nodes that force
[14:38] <@wolfsokta> What cfox said, we will always welcome development help.
[14:38] So just to make sure everyone know. When assets is ready to go live on oct 31st. Everyone that wants to be on the assets chain without any problems will have to download the new binary.
[14:39] <@wolfsokta> The latest binary.
[14:39] under: already in the works
[14:39] excellent to hear
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[14:39] <@wolfsokta> Okay, we've spent a bunch of time on that topic and I think it was needed. Does anybody have any other suggestions on how to get the word out even more?
[14:40] maybe preface all 2.0.X releases as pre-releases... minimize the number of releases between now and 3.0 etc
[14:41] <@wolfsokta> Bruce_ let's discuss further offline.
[14:41] wolfsokta: which are the remaining two pools that need to be upgraded? I've identified qbtc, upbit, and cryptobridge as high volume exchanges that haven't said they were going to do it yet
[14:41] so people can help reach out to them
[14:41] f2pool is notoriously hard to contact
[14:41] are they on board?
[14:42] <@wolfsokta> We could use help reaching out to QBTC and Graviex
[14:42] I can try to contact CB if you want?
[14:42] <@Chatturga> The remaining pools are Ravenminer and PickAxePro.
[14:42] <@Chatturga> I have spoken with their operators, the update just hasnt been applied yet.
[14:42] ravenminer is one of the largest ones too. If they don't upgrade that will be a problem
[14:42] okay good news
[14:42] (PickAxePro sounds like a Ruby book)
[14:43] I strongly feel like getting the word out on ravencoin.org would be beneficial
[14:44] that site is sorely in need of active contribution
[14:44] Anyone can volunteer to contribute
[14:44] <@wolfsokta> Okay, cfox can you talk about the status of unique assets?
[14:44] sure
[14:45] <@wolfsokta> I'll add website to the end of our topics.
[14:45] code is in review and will be on the development branch shortly
[14:45] would it make sense to have a page on the wiki (or somewhere else) that lists the wallet versions run by pools & exchanges?
[14:45] will be in next release
[14:45] furthermore, many sites have friendly link to the standard installers for each platform, if the site linked to the primary installers for each platform to reduce github newb confusion that would be good as well
[14:46] likely to a testnetv5 although that isn't settled
[14:46] <@wolfsokta> Thanks cfox.
[14:46] <@wolfsokta> Are there any questions about unique assets, and how they work?
[14:47] after the # are there any charachters you cant use?
[14:47] will unique assets be constrained by the asset alphanumeric set?
[14:47] ^
[14:47] <@Chatturga> @Urgo there is a page that tracks and shows if they have updated, but it currently doesnt show the actual version that they are on.
[14:47] a-z A-Z 0-9
[14:47] <@Chatturga> https://raven.wiki/wiki/Exchange_notifications#Pools
[14:47] There are a few. Mostly ones that mess with command-line
[14:47] you'll be able to use rpc to do "issueunique MATRIX ['Neo','Tank','Tank Brother']" and it will create three assets for you (MATRIX#Neo, etc.)
[14:47] @cfox - No space
[14:48] @under the unique tags have an expanded set of characters allowed
[14:48] Chatturga: thank you
[14:48] @UJP yes there are some you can't use -- I'll try to post gimmie a sec..
[14:49] Ok. Thank you much!
[14:49] 36^36 assets possible and 62^62 uniques available per asset?
[14:49] <@spyder_> std::regex UNIQUE_TAG_CHARACTERS("^[[email protected]$%&*()[\\]{}<>_.;?\\\\:]+$");
[14:50] regex UNIQUE_TAG_CHARACTERS("^[[email protected]$%&*()[\\]{}<>_.;?\\\\:]+$")
[14:50] oh thanks Mark
[14:51] <@wolfsokta> Okay, next up. I want to thank everybody for helping test the iOS wallet release.
[14:51] <@wolfsokta> We are working with Apple to get the final approval to post it to the App Store
[14:51] @under max asset length is 30, including unique tag
[14:51] Does the RVN wallet have any other cryptos or just RVN?
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[14:52] will the android and ios source be migrated to the ravenproject github?
[14:52] I've been adding beta test users. I've added about 80 new users in the last few days.
[14:52] <@wolfsokta> Just RVN, and we want to focus on adding the asset support to the wallet.
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[14:53] <@wolfsokta> Yes, the code will also be freely available on GitHub for both iOS and Android. Thank you Roshii!
[14:53] Would you consider the iOS wallet to be a more secure place for one's holdings than say, a Mac connected to the internet?
[14:53] will there be a chance of a more user freindly wallet with better graphics like the iOS on PC?
[14:53] the android wallet is getting updated for DGW, correct?
[14:53] <@wolfsokta> That has come up in our discussion Pizza.
[14:54] QT framework is pretty well baked in and is cross platform. if we get some qt gurus possibly
[14:54] Phones are pretty good because the wallet we forked uses the TPM from modern phones.
[14:54] Most important is to write down and safely store your 12 word seed.
[14:54] TPM?
[14:54] <@wolfsokta> A user friendly wallet is one of our main goals.
[14:55] TPM == Trusted Platform Module
[14:55] Ahhh thanks
[14:55] just please no electron apps. they are full of security holes
[14:55] <@spyder_> It is whats makes your stuffs secure
[14:55] not fit for crypto
[14:55] under: depends on who makes it
[14:55] The interface screenshots I've seen look like Bread/Loaf wallet ... I assume that's what was forked from
[14:55] ;)
[14:56] <@wolfsokta> @roshii did you see the question about the Android wallet and DGW?
[14:56] Yes, it was a fork of breadwallet. We like their security.
[14:56] chromium 58 is the last bundled electron engine and has every vuln documented online by google. so unless you patch every vuln.... methinks not
[14:56] Agreed, great choice
[14:57] <@wolfsokta> @Under, what was your proposal?
[14:58] All asset creation Transactions have a mandatory OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY of 1 year(or some agreed upon time interval), and the 500 RVN goes to a multisig devfund, run by a custodial group. We get: 1) an artificial temporary burn, 2) sustainable community and core development funding for the long term, after OSTK/Medici 3) and the reintroduction of RVN supply at a fixed schedule, enabling the removal of the 42k max cap of total As
[14:58] *im wrong on the 42k figure
[14:58] <@wolfsokta> Interesting...
[14:59] <@wolfsokta> Love to hear others thoughts.
[14:59] Update: I posted a message on the CryptoBridge discord and one of their support members @stepollo#6276 said he believes the coin team is already aware of the fork but he would forward the message about the fork over to them right now anyway
[14:59] Ifs 42 million assets
[14:59] yep.
[15:00] I have a different Idea. If the 500 RVN goes to a dev fund its more centralized. The 500 RVN should go back into the unmined coins so miners can stay for longer.
[15:01] *without a hardfork
[15:01] <@wolfsokta> lol
[15:01] that breaks halving schedule, since utxos cant return to an unmined state.
[15:01] @UJP back into coinbase is interesting. would have to think about how that effects distribution schedule, etc.
[15:01] only way to do that would be to dynamicaly grow max supply
[15:02] and i am concerned already about the max safe integer on various platforms at 21 billion
[15:02] js chokes on ravencoin already
[15:02] <@wolfsokta> Other thoughts on Under's proposal? JS isn't a real language. ;)
[15:02] Well Bitcoin has more than 21 bn Sats
[15:02] Is there somebody who wants to volunteer to fix js.
[15:02] hahaha
[15:03] I honestly would hate for the coins to go to a dev fund. It doesn't seem like Ravencoin to me.
[15:03] Yep, but we're 21 billion x 100,000,000 -- Fits fine in a 64-bit integer, but problematic for some languages.
[15:03] <@wolfsokta> Thanks UJP
[15:04] <@wolfsokta> We're past time but I would like to continue if you folks are up for it.
[15:04] Yeah no coins can go anywhere centrality contorted like a dev fund cause that would mean someone has to run it and the code can’t decide that so it’s destined to break
[15:05] currently and long term with out the financial backing of development then improvements and features will be difficult. we are certainly thankful for our current development model. but if a skunkworks project hits a particular baseline of profitability any reasonable company would terminate it
[15:05] Yes let’s contibue for sure
[15:05] the alternative to a dev fund in my mind would be timelocking those funds back to the issuers change address
[15:06] But we can’t have dev built in to the code — it has to be open source like Bitcoin and monero and Litecoin - it’s got drawbacks but way more advantages- it’s the best model
[15:06] Dev funding
[15:06] i highly reccommend not reducing the utility of raven by removing permanently the supply
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[15:07] timelocking those funds accompllishes the same sacrifice
[15:07] @under timelocking is interesting too
[15:07] How exactly does timelocking work?
[15:07] <@wolfsokta> ^
[15:07] I mean you could change the price of assets with the Block reward halfing.
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[15:08] funds cant be spent from an address until a certain time passes
[15:08] but in a what magical fairy land do people continue to work for free forever. funding development is a real issue... as much as some might philosphically disagree. its a reality
[15:08] You’d still need a centralized party to decide how to distribute the funds
[15:08] even unofficially blockstream supports bitcoin devs
[15:08] on chain is more transparent imho
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[15:09] @UJP yes there are unlimited strategies. one factor that I think is v important is giving application developers a way to easily budget for projects which leads to flat fees
[15:09] If the project is a success like many of believe it will be, I believe plenty of people will gladly done to a dev fund. I don't think the 500 should be burned.
[15:09] *donate
[15:09] centralized conservatorship, directed by community voting process
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[15:10] <@wolfsokta> Thanks Under, that's an interesting idea that we should continue to discuss in the community. You also mentioned the existing website.
[15:10] It would need to be something where everyone with a QT has a vote
[15:10] think his computer went to sleep again :-/
[15:10] I agree UJP
[15:10] with the website
[15:10] No that’s ico jargon — any development fund tied to code would have to be centralized and would therefor fail
[15:11] ^
[15:11] ^
[15:11] ^
[15:11] dashes model for funding seems to be pretty decentralized
[15:11] community voting etc
[15:11] Once you have a dev fund tied to code then who gets to run it? Who mediates disputes?
[15:11] oh well another discussion
[15:11] Dash has a CEO
[15:12] <@wolfsokta> Yeah, let's keep discussing in the community spaces.
[15:12] Dash does have a good model. It's in my top ten.
[15:12] having the burn go to a dev fund is absolute garbage
[15:12] These dev chats should be more target than broad general discussions — changing the entire nature of the coin and it’s economics is best discussed in the RIPs or other means
[15:13] <@wolfsokta> Yup, let's move on.
[15:13] just becuase existing implementation are garbage doesnt mean that all possible future governance options are garbage
[15:13] <@wolfsokta> To discussing the website scenario mentioned by under.
[15:13] the website needs work. would be best if it could be migrated to github as well.
[15:13] What about this: Anyone can issue a vote once the voting feature has been added, for a cost. The vote would be what the coins could be used for.
[15:14] features for the site that need work are more user friendly links to binaries
[15:14] <@wolfsokta> We investigated how bitcoin has their website in Github to make it easy for contributors to jump in.
[15:14] that means active maintenance of the site instead of its current static nature
[15:15] <@wolfsokta> I really like how it's static html, which makes it super simple to host/make changes.
[15:15] the static nature isn’t due to interface it’s due to no contributors
[15:15] no contribution mechanism has been offered
[15:15] github hosted would allow that
[15:16] We used to run the Bitcoin website from the foundation & the GitHub integration seemed to cause some issues
[15:16] its doesnt necessarily have to be hosted by github but the page source should be on github and contributions could easily be managed and tracked
[15:17] for example when a new release is dropped, the ability for the downlaods section to have platform specific easy links to the general installers is far better for general adoption than pointing users to github releases
[15:18] <@wolfsokta> How do people currently contribute to the existing website?
[15:18] they dont?
[15:18] We did that and it was a complete pain to host and keep working — if someone wants to volunteer to do that work hey can surely make the website better and continually updated — but they could do that in Wordpress also
[15:19] I’d say keep an eye out for volunteers and maybe we can get a group together who can improve the site
[15:19] == digitalvap0r-xmr [[email protected]/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.255.25.134] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[15:19] And they can decide best method
[15:20] I host the source for the explorer on github and anyone can spin it up instantly on a basic aws node. changes can be made to interface etc, and allow for multilingual translations which have been offered by some community members
[15:20] there are models that work. just saying it should be looked at
[15:20] i gotta run thank you all for your contributions
[15:20] <@wolfsokta> I feel we should explore the source for the website being hosted in GitHub and discuss in our next dev meeting.
[15:21] <@Chatturga> Thanks Under!
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[15:21] <@wolfsokta> Thanks, we also need to drop soon.
[15:21] There is no official site so why care. Someone will do better than the next if RVN is worth it anyway. That's already the case.
[15:21] <@wolfsokta> Let's do 10 mins of open Q&A
[15:22] <@wolfsokta> Go...
[15:23] <@Chatturga> Beuller?
[15:24] No questions ... just a comment that the devs and community are great and I'm happy to be a part of it
[15:24] I think everyone moved to discord. I'll throw this out there. How confident is the dev team that things will be ready for oct 31st?
[15:24] <@wolfsokta> Alright! Thanks everybody for joining us today. Let's plan to get back together as a dev group in a couple of weeks.
[15:25] thanks block!
[15:25] <@wolfsokta> Urgo, very confident
[15:25] Please exclude trolls from discord who havent read the whitepaper
[15:25] great :)
[15:25] "things" will be ready..
[15:25] Next time on discord right?
[15:25] woah why discord?
[15:25] some of the suggestions here are horrid
[15:25] this is better less point
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[15:25] Assets are working well on testnet. Plan is to get as much as we can safely test by Sept 30 -- this includes dev contributions. Oct will be heavy testing and making sure it is safe.
[15:26] people
[15:26] <@wolfsokta> Planning on same time, same IRC channel.
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[15:26] @xmr any in particular?
[15:27] (or is "here" discord?)
[15:27] Cheers - Tron
[15:27] "Cheers - Tron" - Tron
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Groestlcoin Release September 2018

Introduction

As always, the past 3 months since 22nd June have been crazy busy. The bears might still be around, but the show must go on and of course has not slowed the Groestlcoin development team in the slightest. Here’s a quick overview of what has already happened since the last release: - Integrated into the bitbns exchange, with the ability to buy Groestlcoin directly with the Indian Rupee. - Groestlcoin Rebrand Vote – Whilst there was much talk and push for a rebrand vote, the overall result was almost unanimously in favour of keeping our unique and conversation-starting name. With just 83 votes to Rebrand, and 2577 votes to No Rebrand. Thank you for all who voted, the funds raised are being used to fund ongoing hosting and development costs. - Integrated into the Cryptobridge exchange. Cryptobridge is a popular decentralised exchange where you always hold the private keys to your funds, only YOU have access to them. - Groestlcoin has been added to SimpleSwap – Groestlcoin can now be swapped with over 100 other cryptocurrencies, without signing up! - Groestlcoin has been added to UnoDax, one of the leading cryptocurrency exchanges in India, with TUSD, BTC and INR trading pairs. - Groestlcoin has been added to SwapLab.cc, where you can buy Groestlcoin using Bitcoin and over 50 other altcoins. Purchasing with VISA/Mastercard is coming VERY SOON. Discussed later: - Groestlcoin has been listed on #3 largest exchange in the world on volume, Huobi Global! More on this to come further on in the announcements. - Groestlcoin has been added to the Guarda Multi-Currency Wallet. - Groestlcoin has been added to Melis Multi-Device, Multi-Account, Multi-Platform, Multi-Signature advanced wallet! Already this list is far more than most other cryptocurrencies have achieved in the past 3 months. But this is just the tip of the iceberg of what has been developed.

What's been Happening?

GRSPay Released

We are so excited for this, that it has it's own separate reddit thread. Head over there now at https://www.reddit.com/groestlcoin/comments/9ikr5m/groestlcoin_releases_grspay/? to see more on this!
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Melis Wallet

The the most advanced wallet for Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin and now Groestlcoin.
With Melis you have the complete control of your bitcoins and private keys, you can define spending limits policies and make use of two or more factors authentication. Melis is open source, published on GitHub.

How Melis Works?

You can create as many accounts as you want. An account is a part of your wallet that can be customised to your requirements. You can choose how many co-signers are required to spend funds. The accounts are completely independent and act like separate wallets from each other but can be accessed via the same details. A core feature of Melis is the ability to set a ‘primary’ device. With this you can set an account as ‘Secure’ so it is only viewable (and accessible at all) from the Primary device. You can have a savings account hidden from the outside world whilst also having your ‘spending’ funds available on the go. With Melis you can create a multi-signature account between N people, where up to N signatures are required to sign a transaction, choosing if any of those should be mandatory.
Core Features:
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Guarda Wallet

Safer than ever! Desktop Light Wallet - Anonymous and fast!
With Guarda Multi-currency Desktop Light Wallet you don’t need to register. Guarda has no access to your private keys or funds. You can receive, send, store, buy and exchange cryptocurrencies in complete anonymity and safety. All these features are available on Linux, Windows or MacOS. Choose the one that suits you!
More info about Guarda wallet on www.guarda.co
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Integrated into HolyTransaction

What is HolyTransaction?

HolyTransaction gives users access to the crypto world with a universal cryptocurrency wallet and instant exchange.

Features

For more information, visit Holy Transaction here.
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Integrated into NEXT Wallet

What is NEXT?

NEXT is a modern, next-generation stylish open-source Desktop wallet.

Features

For more information, visit NextWallet here.
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Integrated into Blockchain Financial

What is Blockchain Financial?

Blockchain Financial is a set of web based services for individuals and companies that want to make things happen with the Cryptocurrencies Ecosystem. - For those that don't know anything about cryptocurrencies, we offer tools that will let them receive, send and operate with an assortment of coins. - For those that are already riding the wave, we offer tools that will let them do all those things that they weren't able to do.

Blockchain Financials mission

We're not here to reinvent the wheel. We're here to make it run smoother for you, and we provide some of the most useful services you'll find on the internet, made in a way that is easy to understand and use on a daily basis. In short, we're a bunch of people that claim to be Crypto Evangelists. We strongly believe in cryptocurrencies, and our main promise is to push them up so more people get involved and take all the advantages they offer.

More information from Blockchain Financial

Back in 2014, the world was taken by storm when Facebook approved the first cryptocurrencies tipping apps. The first was for Dogecoin, and the second was for multiple coins.
The project was hosted on whitepuma.net, and persisted for almost two years, built up a massive user community and gave a home to Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin and dozens of other bitcoin-based altcoins.
After very active months, the tipping hype started to fade away. Then, the developers decided to jump into the next stage: bringing not only tipping, but also mining and a widget that could be embedded on websites to allow everyone to accept payments. Sadly, the work was never completed because the project started to require an unsustainable amount of resources. Then, in a painful decision, a shutdown was announced by December 2015.
A couple of months after whitepuma.net was closed, the source code was released by its creator as Open Source on GitHub. But it wasn't maintained.
Now, some of the original members of the dev and admin teams gathered up with a handful of the WhitePuma's elite users, and decided to make something good with the best pieces of the old source code. That, with fresh new ideas and the power of the BardCanvas engine, synthesized the core of Blockchain Financial.
More info about Blockchain Financial wallet on .
For more information, visit [Blockchain Financial](www.blockchainfinancial.com)
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Groestlcoin Listed on Huobi

Who are Huobi?

Huobi was founded in China and is now based in Singapore, with offices in Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan and the North America, currently sitting #3 in volume on Coinmarketcap. Huobi is a great leap forward for our growing presence in Asia and we are very excited to be listed here!
You can find the official Huobi announcement here.

Groestlcoin Core v2.16.3 - Please Update ASAP

A new major Groestlcoin Core version 2.16.3 is now available for download which includes both a Denial of Service component and a critical inflation vulnerability, so it is recommended to upgrade to it if you are running a full Groestlcoin node or a local Groestlcoin Core wallet.
v2.16.3 is now the official release version of Groestlcoin Core. This is a new major version release with a very important security updates. It is recommended to upgrade to this version as soon as possible. Please stop running versions of Groestlcoin Core affected by CVE-2018-17144 ASAP: These are 2.13.3 and 2.16.0.
As a result in this, all exchanges and services have been asked to upgrade to this version, so please be patient if wallets go in to maintenance mode on these services.

What's new in version v2.16.3?

This is a major release of Groestlcoin Core fixing a Denial of Service component and a critical inflation vulnerability (https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2018-17144) exploitable by miners that has been discovered in Groestlcoin Core version 2.13.3 and 2.16.0. It is recommended to upgrade to 2.16.3 as soon as possible. If you only occasionally run Groestlcoin Core, then it's not necessary to run out and upgrade it right this second. However, you should upgrade it before you next run it. If you know anyone who is running an older version, tell them to upgrade it ASAP. Stored funds are not at risk, and never were at risk. At this time we believe over half of the Groestlcoin hashrate has upgraded to patched nodes. We are unaware of any attempts to exploit this vulnerability. However, it still remains critical that affected users upgrade and apply the latest patches to ensure no possibility of large reorganizations, mining of invalid blocks, or acceptance of invalid transactions occurs.

The Technicals

In Groestlcoin Core 2.13.3, an optimization was added (Bitcoin Core PR #9049) which avoided a costly check during initial pre-relay block validation that multiple inputs within a single transaction did not spend the same input twice which was added in 2012 (Bitcoin Core PR #443). While the UTXO-updating logic has sufficient knowledge to check that such a condition is not violated in 2.13.3 it only did so in a sanity check assertion and not with full error handling (it did, however, fully handle this case twice in prior to 2.1.0.6). Thus, in Groestlcoin Core 2.13.3, any attempts to double-spend a transaction output within a single transaction inside of a block will result in an assertion failure and a crash, as was originally reported. In Groestlcoin Core 2.16.0, as a part of a larger redesign to simplify unspent transaction output tracking and correct a resource exhaustion attack the assertion was changed subtly. Instead of asserting that the output being marked spent was previously unspent, it only asserts that it exists. Thus, in Groestlcoin Core 2.16.0, any attempts to double-spend a transaction output within a single transaction inside of a block where the output being spent was created in the same block, the same assertion failure will occur. However, if the output being double-spent was created in a previous block, an entry will still remain in the CCoin map with the DIRTY flag set and having been marked as spent, resulting in no such assertion. This could allow a miner to inflate the supply of Groestlcoin as they would be then able to claim the value being spent twice.
Groestlcoin would like to publicly thank Reddit user u/Awemany for finding CVE-2018-17144 and reporting it (https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-core-dev/2018-Septembe000064.html). You deserve gratitude and appreciation from cryptoworld, and you have ours. If you want to support him for his work, please consider donating to him on his bitcoin cash address: bitcoincash:qr5yuq3q40u7mxwqz6xvamkfj8tg45wyus7fhqzug5
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Groestlcoin Electrum-GRS 3.2.2 - Ledger & Trezor Edition

What is Electrum-GRS?
Electrum-GRS is a lightweight "thin client" groestlcoin wallet Windows, MacOS and Linux based on a client-server protocol. Its main advantages over the original Groestlcoin client include support for multi-signature wallets and not requiring the download of the entire block chain.

Changes:

http://i.imgur.com/3YhyNZK.png

Electrum-GRS Mobile Android

What is Electrum-GRS Mobile?

Electrum-grs is a lightweight "thin client" groestlcoin wallet Android based on a client-server protocol. Its main advantages over the original Groestlcoin client include support for multi-signature wallets and not requiring the download of the entire block chain.

Changes

Groestlcoin EasyVanity Released

Groestlcoin EasyVanity is a Windows app is built from the ground-up in C# and makes it easier than ever before to create your very own bespoke Groestlcoin address(es), even whilst not connected to the internet! You can even generate multiple keys with the same prefix and leave it on overnight whilst your CPU or GPU collects and stores these addresses locally.
If you're tired of the random, cryptic addresses generated by regular groestlcoin clients, then Groestlcoin EasyVanity is the right choice for you to create a more personalized address.

Features

• Ability to continue finding keys after first one is found • Includes warning on startup if connected to the internet • Ability to output keys to a text file (And shows button to open that directory) • Ability to make your match case sensitive (Where possible) • Show and hide the private key with a simple toggle switch, and copy the private key straight to your clipboard • Show full output of commands • Includes statistics whilst the application is running • Ability to choose between Processor (CPU) and Graphics Card (GPU) • Automatically detects 32 or 64 bit systems • Features both a Light and Dark Material Design inspired Themes • EasyVanity's search is probabilistic, and the amount of time required to find a given pattern depends on how complex the pattern is, the speed of your computer, and whether you get lucky. • EasyVanity includes components to perform address searching on your CPU (vanitygen) and your OpenCL-compatible GPU (oclvanitygen). Both can be built from source, and both are included in the Windows binary package. • Prefixes are exact strings that must appear at the beginning of the address. When searching for prefixes, Easyvanity will ensure that the prefix is possible, and will provide a difficulty estimate. • The percentage displayed just shows how probable it is that a match would be found in the session so far. If it finds your address with 5% on the display, you are extremely lucky. If it finds your address with 92% on the display, you are unlucky. If you stop EasyVanity with 90% on the display, restart it, and it finds your address with 2% on the display, your first session was unlucky, but your second session was lucky. • EasyVanity uses the OpenSSL random number generator. This is the same RNG used by groestlcoin and a good number of HTTPS servers. It is regarded as well-scrutinized. Guessing the private key of an address found by EasyVanity will be no easier than guessing a private key created by groestlcoin itself. • To speed up address generation, EasyVanity uses the RNG to choose a private key, and literally increments the private key in a loop searching for a match. As long as the starting point is not disclosed, if a match is found, the private key will not be any easier to guess than if every private key tested were taken from the RNG. EasyVanity will also reload the private key from the RNG after 10,000,000 unsuccessful searches (100M for oclvanitygen), or when a match is found and multiple patterns are being searched for. • Free software - MIT. Anyone can audit the code. • Written in C# - The code is short, and easy to review.

Groestlcoin Sentinel (Android & Blackberry) – Mainnet + Testnet

What is Sentinel?

Groestlcoin Sentinel is the easiest and fastest way to track/receive/watch payments in your offline Groestlcoin Wallets. Groestlcoin Sentinel is compatible with any standard Groestlcoin address, BIP44 XPUB (Extended Public Key) BIP49 YPUB and BIP84 ZPUB
Groestlcoin Sentinel is a great solution for anyone who wants the convenience and utility of a hot wallet for receiving payments directly into their cold storage (or hardware wallets). Sentinel accepts XPUB's, YPUB'S, ZPUB's and individual Groestlcoin address. Once added you will be able to view balances, view transactions, and (in the case of XPUB's, YPUB's and ZPUB's) deterministically generate addresses for that particular wallet.

What's New?

The P2SH paperwallet supports creating P2SH paperwallets in bulk, keypair generation with QR codes and sweeping tool. Groestlcoin believes strongly in privacy, the live version does not collect and store IP or transaction data.
Changes
Features
The BECH32 paperwallet supports creating BECH32 paperwallets in bulk, keypair generation with QR codes and sweeping tool. Groestlcoin believes strongly in privacy, the live version does not collect and store IP or transaction data.
Features
![WebWallet](https://i.imgur.com/Z2oj7bj.png)

Groestlcoin Web Wallet Update 1.4

What is Groestlcoin Web Wallet?
Groestlcoin Webwallet is an open source, multisignature, HD Wallet and more! Webwallet is a a open source browser based Groestlcoin webwallet.
Webwallet is a playground for Groestlcoin in javascript to experiment with. It supports multisig, OP_HODL, RBF and many more. Groestlcoin believes strongly in privacy, the live version does not collect and store IP or transaction data.
Changes:
submitted by Yokomoko_Saleen to groestlcoin [link] [comments]

Transcript of Developer Meeting in Discord - March 29, 2019

Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Is this unlocked?
oh cool. yes it is
Guess we need an admin to unlock it. Some of our devs cant type in here yet.
@shiggidy @traysi ★★★★★ Can yall unlock this channel?
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
Should be open now
bhorn03/29/2019
open!
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
heya!
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Woot
theking03/29/2019
Glad to be here.
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
@Jeroz can you type now?
Jeroz03/29/2019
Works now
ty
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Great. Didn't really have an agenda for this meeting I'm told. Can open it up? Anyone have anything to start?
Bianca_NL03/29/2019
YaY
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
testnet voting on messaging bip?
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
I like it.
@GhostDogsGhost You might be the main "answerer of questions" for this. Not sure where @[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs is.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
anyone know if it's passed? if and when it'd be great to get some usage
Vincent03/29/2019
all good @traysi ★★★★★
Jeroz03/29/2019
Messaging is active on testnet now. The vote passed.
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
I'll try to clean up the permissions for this channel to make it simpler for future meetings.
Jeroz03/29/2019
There is no GUI yet to test it.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
sweet -- yeah just rpc for now
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
here
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
yay
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So, for messaging. There is not GUI, we really want to test the protocol which you can use fully through the rpc console.
We understand that this limits the number of users that will want to do testing but we wanted to get it out there asap to find bugs
Jeroz03/29/2019
Is there list of commands / little guide on how to get started with them in the console?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Also, we wanted to let everyone know that we are going to try and get messaging protocol and restricted assets on mainnet at the same time. This means that the release for messaging might be delayed by a couple weeks. The devs are working really hard to make this happen and hope that the community is willing to wait a little longer for mainnet messaging.
There are commands like sendmessage listmessages and subscribe rpc calls yes
Jeroz03/29/2019
That would mean 1 hardfork instead of 2 right?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Exactly @Jeroz
[Master] Roshii03/29/2019
Hello!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Also, the Qt for messaging wont be released until after the hardfork, but the Qt for messaging and restricted assets would be in the same release.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Hello! Thanks for holding this meeting.
Jeroz03/29/2019
Will dividends also be included to that? @WhaleStreet (BW) (not sure if you are here)
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Dividends can be released at anytime it is completed as it doesn't require a hardfork
Jeroz03/29/2019
I meant the GUI update
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
For restricted assets, will owners of !uniquename have a grace period to claim $uniquename ?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I am not sure on the GUI for dividends.
We are still figuring out if we are going to allow for a grave period or not. I think we are leading to the answer of Yes there will be a grace period.
but we aren't sure yet
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
I've been studying and out of the loop of the RVN scene for a long time - is there any chance of someone updating me on what y'all talking about?
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
We have also been going through and cleaning up issues in GitHub. Tried to clean up tags in there as well. We will probably start going though those on a weekly ->monthly basis to stay ahead of things.
Vincent03/29/2019
community seens to agree !ASSET has exclsuvie on $ASSET
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
Silva -- that's open for discussion -- I think the general sentiment is that there should be some preference given to current asset owners
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@SamzOnline [w1ne] We are talking about the roadmap and how the development of the new features are coming along.
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Lovely many thanks
Vincent03/29/2019
what is the justification on only a grace period?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Is it possible to reissue a !ownership as a $ownership?
Jeroz03/29/2019
@SamzOnline [w1ne]
https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-tags-and-restricted-assets-84fe3070a226
https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-kaaawww-2f72077aece
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent I don't think is has exclusive rights. More like a first right of refusal for a couple months
Synicide03/29/2019
agree there should be some kind of grace period, or users that originally registered those assets will feel shafted
Vincent03/29/2019
but what is that justification?
if you are building Applein ur garage, you may need a few yrs to go public
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Issue being assets will cease to be unique with two different types about
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
True.
We aren't sure on what approach will be taken yet
Synicide03/29/2019
should regular and restricted assets share the same 'uniqueness of naming'?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Please the community let us know what you think is fair.
This topic will 100% need to be discussed a lot
Vincent03/29/2019
when it was announced, there was a lot of discussion; most seemed to agree
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
@Jeroz Many thanks
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
If the consensus is that we shouldn't allow for ASSET! and $ASSET to be issued by different people then we will need to make sure that is the right approach. The code hasn't been written yet.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
Some of this will depend on what we end up pricing the $ASSETS at (burn for issuance)..
Vincent03/29/2019
prcing shouldnt matter imo
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
We need to determine how important unique asset names are, for varying types.
Vincent03/29/2019
should be the owner of the asset name
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Exactly
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
hey all, sorry im late :thumbsup:
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Howdy
Synicide03/29/2019
If someone registers !company123, and starts building a platform for themselves, seems they should be given an option to convert to $company123, and shouldnt have to worry about another party creating $company123
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
They will be given that option
Vincent03/29/2019
indefinately
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
the question is, is that option going to exist for forever, or maybe only 4 months
Vincent03/29/2019
then the worry still exists
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
I definitely vote for ! And $ to only be issued by the same people
Synicide03/29/2019
lets say they choose not to, can someone else create $company123? Or is that unqiue name shared?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
I believe, ideally, a reissuance option would be available at anytime from !ownership
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Synicide That decision hasn't been made yet
theking03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs I do agree that releasing both messaging and restricted assets at same time makes sense so there is only one hard fork. What is the current thinking on tentative timeline before they would both be on main net?
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
im excited about this memo indication, its useful because it means a buyer of an asset sending rvn can indicate the 'return address' without the 'seller of the asset receiving ravencoin' having to transverse the full vin/vout chain to obtain the source address to dispatch asset to. Is there a timeline for this feature or any documentation on it @[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs ?
Synicide03/29/2019
my 2 cents, they should be a shared pool of unique names. The door is opened for scammers galore if it isnt.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@theking A couple months atleast.
To make sure it is tested on testnet for long enough
theking03/29/2019
That makes perfect sense!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org It will be on mainnet as soon as it and restricted assets are tested. Is the goal
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
excellent, i look forward to it
Chill03/29/2019
Thank you for taking the time to bring up the ! and $ ownership issue. It's of extreme importance imo
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
its gods work your doing there
bitnaive03/29/2019
yeah it seems like any modifiers to the original !NAME should belong to !NAME
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
I would like to voice concern over the idea of the "grace period".... The idea of a UNIQUE asset name is key to our success. Many of us jumped on names we wanted. This doesn't feel right to need to have yet another name floating around if it's not controlled by the !OWNERSHIP token
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@Chill NP :p
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yes please on only 1 hard fork
Chill03/29/2019
unique is unique. I have 510 of them!
Synicide03/29/2019
@DirkDiggler (RVN ded) grace peroid wont matter if the naming pool is shared for uniqueness
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So, If I own GOOGLE!, and I don't want $GOOGLE, no one should be allowed to own it?
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
exactly
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Ideally, yes
bhorn03/29/2019
that feels right to me
Jeroz03/29/2019
yes
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Interesting
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
yes
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs I'm good w that
Synicide03/29/2019
that makes the most sense to me. As said, opens the door to scammers if not
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Would add extra value to the ownership token as well
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
If more power is given to !ownership(changing type), more value is added to said asset, by way of design and ability
Vincent03/29/2019
and if you want to covert your assets to restricted yrs from now you will have a logistic nightmare if you have a bunch of owners
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I feel like, if we give people the option to register the restricted asset $ and they don't want it, that it is only fair that it is up for grabs
bitnaive03/29/2019
maybe no one else should be allowed to issue it but it can be transferred
Vincent03/29/2019
why?
Chill03/29/2019
I really don't think that's fair, to be honest
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Unique names are lost, in that case.
And in that way, !ownership loses value by not having the ability to change, if need be
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yeah I'd rather see the one name issued only forever
bitnaive03/29/2019
that way, if some one wants it. the can contact the owner for it.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I think restricted assets have a different use case than regular assets, and they can be frozen.
Vincent03/29/2019
i can buy ravenland and revent push from moving forward with is project (after grace)
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
seems like from a "code" perspective... the idea of 2 different (but similar names) would be a nightmare as well
Jeroz03/29/2019
Ideally give reissuable the extra option of making it restricted in my mind. I have mixed feelings about tokens traveling around that have the same asset name but are a different type.
Vincent03/29/2019
all his logos would have to change to his new name
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
They not have them remain one in the same? With the ability to change to restricted, should they have to. Though reissuance?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent That is why push would have plenty of time to pick up the ravenland restricted asset if he wanted it
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
One of our selling points over ETH is that ETH can issue a bunch of the same named assets as long as the contract address is different
Vincent03/29/2019
bbut who says what is enough time
i may need yrs
bhorn03/29/2019
the extra cost could be onerous as well
Chill03/29/2019
when the asset layer was launched, it was billed as being unique names. Be careful in changing this, please.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
True, that amount of time isn't determined yet, if this is the route that is taken
bhorn03/29/2019
some have many many many assets
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
RVN, u issue that name once, it can never be duplicated
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
where as having just another sub asset type ($RESTRICTED) falls under the same hierarchy already defined
bhorn03/29/2019
and the RVN is not as cheaply replaced
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Chill Not changing that, just talking about the next asset usecase and how it could be coded is all
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
What kind of burn costs are we thinking w issuing restricted assets?
Synicide03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs what if push decides not to, then someone else registers it for malicious intent with the same name? Surely the person who built their company on chain doesnt want another token of their company name out there
Vincent03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs you seem to be the only one fighting for the garce period
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor Not sure yet, going to be more than regular issuanace is the thought.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Agreed
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@Vincent Simply bringing it into conversation, no harm
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Not fighting, just keeping an open mind. I just code it, I am not the one making the decision.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
hey this is a bit of a random question but i get a lot of subassets send to me, what about wildcard sending via the wallet? like if i wanted to send RAVENLAND/* to an address
Vincent03/29/2019
true but just showing what the concesous is
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org Create a request in the issues on github for extra functionality
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:thumbsup:
will do mate
Synicide03/29/2019
seems if ! and $ arent shared unique, then companies will have to register both just to protect themselves
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
How about a unique asset w re-issuable IPFS?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
We should be giving more power to !ownership by allowing it the ability to change to $ - Not giving less power to !ownership by duplicating unique names.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
GUNCERT provided a valid use case IMO for unique w re-issuable IPFS
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Sure I get that.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Agrees
If this is a possibility, to give the restricted assets to those who own the normal ones, it ought to be done
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor Looking in on how to do that. The request is on github just don't have the time to implement it yet.
restricted assets, will have to be issued. and the corresponding amount of rvn will be burned for them
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
it'd be nice to see a ravencoin network swarm, us and mango farms are doing something with that so if anyone else wants to get involved, i think its a worthwhile thing to build the power of the ravencoin ipfs hash network to keep them hashes alive
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Yikes
Ah well
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
i wrote a programmatic script to scrape all the ipfs files, so i can probably runa simple enough shellscript to ipfs add pin everything from chain
Vincent03/29/2019
plus ravenland sent me a bunch of tokens...they will be worthless now!!! :sunglasses:
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:joy:
vincent
one day tho eh
Chill03/29/2019
my 250,000 RVN that were spent on RVN assets are feeling pretty weak at the moment
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent haha ravenland assets are still assets. They just don't have the ability to freeze then and stop you from trading them
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
you got to have one ring to rule them all... the Unique Ownership Token does that
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
@Chill That puts my 80 to shame!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Chill Like I said, no decision has been made yet.
Vincent03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs just playing with that one
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Yeah, I understand
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Changing gears alittle, Has any further thought been put into privacy?
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
a tor network with proxychains could be effectively used to privatize a node
Jeroz03/29/2019
Seems that we need to continue discussions about the asset naming and make a write up about the proposals.
I have a different question:
About metadata and transactions. Tron mentioned that it will be possible to attach metadata to every transaction. It was unclear to me whether he meant every messaging transaction or every regular RVN/Asset transaction.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
ive been looking into this a little bit
Synicide03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org been wondering that too, and if restricted assets for KYC/AML NEED to be trackable
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Privacy isn't the main thing ravencoin wants right now. We need to be able to send and trade assets with visibility of amounts and the asset names. Once the main core components are finished, we can start thinking about integration privacy.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
as i understand it tor could as a protocol be built into ravencoin itself and distroed as a private tor based connector or hardened in such a way not to leak dns or requests that are not 'tor' proxied .. but you could do this already with some modifications to most linux systems (without the need for a ravencoin release)
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Understood
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Jeroz With messaging, all asset transactions can contain a metadata field yes.
Jeroz03/29/2019
RVN too?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Not RVN at this time, as that already exists with the OP_RETURN functionality of bitcoin
Jeroz03/29/2019
Yeah I was about to say
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
I dream of one day Ravencoin giving users the ability to protect themselves from state level actors looking to oversee transactions on chain.
[Master] Roshii03/29/2019
What's the subject?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org That would be amazing, however the dividends and voting require a public ledger in order to send
Synicide03/29/2019
@[Master] Roshii large one is if regular and restricted assets should share unique names, and/or if a grace peroid should be allowed for original owners to register restricted assets
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So we would need to figure out a way to have that info public and keep privacy
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Agree'd
Synicide03/29/2019
that was my worry, that it HAS to be public for a lot of uses. Privacy would have to be optional
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
ravencoin was built and is being built to support asset trading. Privacy is important but isn't currently the focus of the dev team.
Synicide03/29/2019
sounds good, focus on our roadmap and can research it more in the future
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Privacy is one of the very lasts subjects brought up in the whitepaper, after all :wink:
Vincent03/29/2019
to bring up an old topic; assets that haven't been reissued, there was talk about lowering the decimal places to reissue; i know not important but if it needed to be in a hard fork; should it be looked at the add to th next?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent I have found a way to do this, however it requires the reissuer to own all assets
Synicide03/29/2019
how would you determine the correct values if lowering decimals? rounding?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Yes!
Vincent03/29/2019
correct
nice
Synicide03/29/2019
if they all own, I guess its a non-issue
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
We aren't currently working on that, but I will try and get it into the hard fork release
Vincent03/29/2019
it would be a 1 time option, correct?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
In that event too, ability to reduce total supply as well if u still own every asset created would also be an excellent Option to have
When 350? (350club)03/29/2019
Is Bruces worry about the security of Ravencoin a curent issue?
Chill03/29/2019
That seems to be the talk of the day
Zaab03/29/2019
Its just honesty
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
We know a 51% attack is cheap
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Depends on if it meets requirements.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
But reorg depth protection is good
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yes Ravencoin currently doesn't have the network security that Bitcoin does, and water is wet
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
more full nodes is the answer to a stronger consensus and therefore a more securer network
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Hmmm checks out
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:ThinkBlack:
Vincent03/29/2019
right i guess my question is one time at most?
Synicide03/29/2019
It feels like more than just honesty. The last 4 post in a row from the Ravencoin twitter have some type of FUD based around it. Its all you see on the first page when looking at it. Some of that stuff needs to be kept to his personal account
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Probably not a development Question, what Bruce says on his own time. :persevere:
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@Synicide Bruce don't wanna spend a fortune on restricted assets :yum:
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
I don't like it myself either though @Synicide
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
yeah the ravencoin twitter has been a bit..... not good to put it easy
Vincent03/29/2019
this is bruces baby...and fud should be taken lightly imo
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Bruce can say what he wants :_)
Chill03/29/2019
well, it is the unofficial official Twitter page, so it kind of does matter
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
We have taken measures to make sure ravencoin is safe and to stop 51% attacks
Synicide03/29/2019
I agree on his personal account. When people look up this project on twitter, they dont need a full page of fud
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
its not a very development orientated debate tho in fairness
Vincent03/29/2019
no news will stop a well designed code
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Many new users are asking about IPFS integration. Is this still being researched?
When 350? (350club)03/29/2019
I only asked as it appeared Bruce was saying there is a current security vulnerability..
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs what can people do to help secure the ravencoin network into 2019 and in the future?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@When 350? (350club) Bruce doesn't code, he wouldn't know
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
sorry, got a late start on this meeting. is kyc stuff on the table for discussion today, or is that at a later meeting?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org Looks at the PR's, make sure the code being added is well written and secure.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
sure thing
and run fullnodes right?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Run nodes, and mine ravencoin!
haha
hashpower
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:thumbsup:
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
that part
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Looks like its time.
Jeroz03/29/2019
Alright, I have to pick up my son. Thanks everyone!
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Thanks all
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Thx!
Vincent03/29/2019
:sunglasses:
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
cheers again :thumbsup: keep up the good work :rvn_hop:
Chill03/29/2019
thanks for everyone's hard work
Synicide03/29/2019
great talks today, thanks guys
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Can have an admin shut it down and move this over to another channel until next time.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Thanks for voicing your concerns.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Thanks everyone
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
@traysi ★★★★★ can you lock it back?
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
The channel is locked now.
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Activities in the Litecoin world, addendum to "Litecoin State of the Union"

Dear Litecoin Community,
You may have seen recently I made a post titled “Litecoin State of the Union”, which was made in order to clarify what was going on in the world of Litecoin, and calm peoples fear about asics, price, as well as let folks know what the LA and other community members are working on in the LTC eco-system. With that said, I felt the response for the most part was very positive and really got some of the community members engaged and more knowledgeable of the activities and initiatives that are going on. So I wanted to elaborate a bit on a number of activities that the community is trying to put together as well as areas where we need some help in.
Safe network alliance pledge We are very aware of coinotrons recent issue with the %51 network hash rate. Because of this, we have formed a pledge to pools to take in order to state the will be %28 or below the network hash rate. This is important to prevent time warp attacks on the network (which can happen with any coin, and cause the hacker to fake data and issue fake coins to themselves). Please spread the word to the pool you mine at, and request them to take the LA/LTC pledge for a safer network located here https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20028.0.
Litecoin video After much back and forth, and starting a video, we decided to scrap the original and start again. One of our Litecoin Association members, Saigoned, stepped up as the project manager and will see this come to fruition. It was decided that we would assign bounties to this project in order to get this complete so we can show folks and merchants. Therefore, 65 LTC has been set aside to help pay for certain aspects of the video (50 of which was donated by the Litecoin Association). Please see https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=19799.0 for more details on the project and bounty. Also, special thanks to Losh11 that help start this initiative!
New wallet splash screen With the up and coming release of the new Litecoin QT wallet (which will be called “Litecoin Core”) ver 0.9, there is an initiative to have a new splash screen made by the community for the developers to use. Warren, lead Litecoin Dev, proposed to get the community more involved and wanted to use new splash screens for both the main loading screen and the testnet screen. Please see https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=19989.0 for more details on this project along with deadlines. NOTE: Current deadline is June 4th, which I have requested an extension so that the reddit community can submit their work.
Electrum Wallet Electrum wallet is still in beta testing to ensure everything is working properly. This is an important project for the Litecoin community as a whole. Pooler is the developer working on this, and is still asking for beta testers as well as public servers to help with electrum. If you would like to help, please see this thread here https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=18608.0.
LTC on Bloomberg Coblee has started an initiative to get Litecoin prices listed on Bloomberg feeds, much like how Bitcoin is already displayed. Roscoe, who is also another member of the Litecoin Association, has taken the lead on this project and is asking for help getting Litecoin displayed on Bloomberg. If you use or know someone who uses a Bloomberg Professional Terminal, please send a message to their online support desk asking for Litecoin price quotes and news to be added. Please show your support in helping him if you can, see https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=19258.0 for more details.
Translators needed If you speak more than one language, your skills are in need for the Bitcoin/Litecoin development teams. Please see https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=19050.0 for more details.
Help with LA pages The Litecoin Association (http://litecoinassociation.org/) needs help in the form of ideas and volunteers to help “spruce up” the LA website. We need ideas for improvements, sections, content, and anything else you think is good to list. You don’t have to be a member of the LA in order to help out, anyone can help! Crazik is the administrator for the website as well as on the LA board of directors. Please contact him if you want to help out (and we need some help with this too, I promised him I would get a few folks hehe).
Merchant basket TheMage (Yes me), started a project in order to create merchant baskets for folks to print out and take with them in order to get more merchants on board to accept LTC and crypto’s in general. This will be the next large project to be completed after the Litecoin video project. See https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20157.0 for more details. SEE LITECOIN.COM WEBSITE ACTIVITY BELOW!
Website and Client Documentation Dev We have a new intern working with Warren to help out with Litecoin.org as well as end user documentation, seikochan. Her goals for taking the position are * Improving the Litecoin website to be a more inclusive, collaborative project where the community helps by contributing improvements and expanding the content to be more informative. * Improving the documentation for both Bitcoin and Litecoin client software to make it easier for everyone to understand the best practices in protecting themselves against theft and accidental losses that usually are the result of user error. She can use your help with helping create this documentation for both the Litecoin and Bitcoin clients. In addition, she could also use your assistance in the form of translators. Please see https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=17395.0 for more details.
LA meetings and Community Projects Litecoin Association meetings are on IRC every other Sunday and are a completely open forum (anyone can attend). The LA board members and Ambassadors conduct the meeting and go over important information with the community and where we need help from the community. After the board speaks, the floor opens for any topics not discussed. We implore everyone to attend! Here is the sticky for information on which channel to join, time zones for clarification, and past meeting notes https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=19434.0. The Community Projects section is where we create new initiatives for folks as well as try to coordinate marketing campaigns to get companies on board to accept LTC (the merchant basket and Litecoin video as well as previous charities were started in this section). Here is the link to the main boar https://litecointalk.org/index.php?board=89.0.
Final Thoughts I hope to continue to keep the reddit community abreast of activities that the Community, Litecoin Association, and Developers are working on in order to bring more information to the masses. I understand in the past that this information may not have been flowed properly, but I am looking to change that. I want everyone here to know that Litecointalk.org and reddit are one big community, and we need to work together to continue to keep Litecoin as a top tier currency in the crypto world! But we need YOUR help with this, the communities help. So what ever little bit you can do, PLEASE help us make this better! Thank you :)
EDIT Litecoin.com Website
Coblee recently asked the community what to do with the domain name Litecoin.com. We are looking for open ideas from everyone. https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20168.0
In addition, treasure_finder, has offered a 20 LTC bounty for Litecoin.com development. See here for details https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20204.0
I don't have the technical know how to make this happen but I know it is important for the future of our coin. Therefore, I'm offering a 20 LTC bounty to the person or persons who are able to make this site a reality. Even if you're not sure what the final site should look like, start the design, make the work-in-progress and let us all provide feedback and work on it together to make it a reality. I don't care if LTC reaches $100 between now and then, I will send you 20 LTC when the site is launched. I invite any other members to add to this bounty, to get ourselves a top quality site that will reinforce LTC as the true silver crypto coin.
Coblee has now donated 100 LTC to this activity, which puts the bounty up to 120 LTC. I am rolling the merchant basket activity into this as well. Stay tuned for details on how this will be distributed.
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